Posts Tagged ‘bleach’

Greener cleaner update

Monday, July 6th, 2009

Karen Pugh writes:

I whipped up a batch of your home-made liquid laundry soap awhile ago, and it doesn’t work very well!! It didn’t gel, it doesn’t suds up very much, and my husband isn’t very impressed with his un-white whites! Have you had any of these problems?

Queen of Green, Lindsay Coulter, responds:

The foundation recipe is:

  • 50% soap (called soap flakes, soap granules or you can grate bar soap)
  • 25% Borax
  • 25% washing soda

Boil a pot of water on the stove and add soap flakes (1 cup). Boil them until they’re diluted. Add this soap mixture to about a 7 L pail with ½ cup washing soda and ½ cup Borax. Add 20 drops of an essential oil. The mixture will partially gelatinize once cooled. This makes a huge batch so you may want to cut the whole thing in half.

Purpose of ingredients:

  • Borax- kills germs and whitens
  • Washing Soda- cuts grease and softens water
  • Soap Flakes (granules or bar soap)- forces out dirt

Common problems:

  • Adding soap dry to pail of water (you need to dilute it in the boiling water first).
  • Not boiling it enough. You don’t want to see any granules.
  • Your water hardness may have something to do with it. If you have hard water add more washing soda.

Whites not white enough?

  • Make sure you wash like colors together.
  • I add ½ cup of baking soda to my white loads and wash in warm
  • Buy oxygen bleach or eco-bleach (which is really hydrogen peroxide)

As for suds, you won’t see much because this mixture is devoid of chemicals. Conventional stuff has chemicals that make the suds so you and I think it’s getting clean. Kind of like sodium lauryl sulfate in your shampoo and toothpaste. The new laundry soaps for HE machines have less suds actually because it’s not necessary.

Hope that helps!

Clarifying points on bleach & home cleaners

Friday, February 20th, 2009

Greg B. writes:

I noticed a few misconceptions about bleach on your blog. As a scientist from Clorox, I thought it would be helpful to clarify a few points:

First, I wanted to emphasize the importance of disinfecting. Using a solution of white vinegar and baking soda cannot provide the same disinfecting qualities of an EPA registered disinfectant.

* For example, Clorox® Regular-Bleach prevents the spread of diseases like MRSA; the EPA recognizes bleach as an approved disinfectant that can kill this deadly virus.  See page 7 of the EPA list of approved disinfectants for MRSA.

While you appropriately note that bleach is sodium hypochlorite, you later use the term “chlorine bleach” which is actually a misnomer. It is important to make the distinction between chlorine and sodium hypochlorite, because they have entirely different chemistries. At its source, sodium hypochlorite is derived from seawater — there is no free chlorine in bleach any more than there is free chlorine in table salt (and we don’t call that “chlorine salt”).

  • A report by the European Union Scientific Committee on Health and Environmental Risks says, “…disappearance of hypochlorite is practically immediate in the natural aquatic environment,” and “…for the soil compartment, the role of hypochlorite pollution is assumed as negligible.”   http://ec.europa.eu/health/ph_risk/committees/04_scher/docs/scher_o_082.pdf

Second, normal household use of bleach does not form dioxins. Additionally, dioxins are not formed during either the manufacturing of bleach or its raw materials. The conditions necessary to produce halogenated organic compounds like dioxins are not present in household bleach. Among other reasons, the pH of bleach is too high.

  • The American Chemistry Council’s Web site, dioxinfacts.org provides a list of dioxin sources provided by the EPA.  Household bleach – sodium hypochlorite – is not a source.

Finally, I’d like to clarify that given the spectrum of everyday life, pediatric ingestion and exposures to bleach are not problems; nearly all pediatric household bleach exposures are managed at home, with dilution as the only treatment. Very few result in adverse effects or receive specific therapies other than decontamination.

If you would like more information about bleach, I encourage you to visit factsaboutbleach.com .

Lindsay responds:

As you can see we’re all for people making their own cleaners, which are simple, cheap, easy and work just as well as any store bought cleaner minus the toxin exposure. We don’t believe that you need the strength of bleach in the everyday home. There’s even research out there that compared two hospitals, one that used bleach and the other that did not. One year later they had the same bacterial load as one another. But again, for what most of us handle in the home we feel bleach is unnecessary.

Basically we’re in line with resources like the Cancer Smart Guide 3.0 that states "while not a carcinogen or reproductive toxin, this is another ingredient to avoid as much as possible. The chlorine used to make bleach is toxic to produce and bleach itself is acutely toxic to fish." Thanks for making that distinction between bleach and chlorine.

Time and time again I have seen in other similar literature the following, "Products containing chlorine should be avoided at all costs. Also any chemical with chlorine or anything listed as bleach should be considered unacceptable."

We will make the correction to the terminology I confused.

Is bleach bad?

Sunday, September 14th, 2008

Briar writes the David Suzuki Nature Challenge:

A Clorox spokesperson says bleach breaks down to harmless salts and water. Is this true? I thought bleach was bad for fish!

Lindsay replies:

Bleach is bad, you’re right. You’ll see info about the harmful properties of bleach in many pieces of literature, just likely not by the company who makes it. In addition to the green cleaning recipes we provided David Suzuki Nature Challengers with, we’ll soon have a list up of harmful ingredients. Do visit www.queenofgreen.ca for the recipes so you can avoid bleach all together. White vinegar and baking soda work just as well to disinfect everything from your toilet bowl to the cat litter box!

Here’s what my sources say about chlorine bleach:

1. Bleach or Sodium Hyperchlorite is not considered a carcinogen or reproductive toxin. It’s the chlorine used to make the bleach which is toxic to produce and acutely toxic to fish. Source: CancerSmart 3.0, Labour Environmental Alliance Society

2. Chlorine is a gas created through electrolysis of salt water. It produces a toxic chemical and deadly by-products like dioxins. When using chlorine bleach it creates small amounts of organochlorines which are very dangerous. These organochlorines can cause reproductive, endocrine and immune system disorders. When released into the environment chlorine forms compounds that have been inked to cancer. Source: ToxicSmart Alternatives, Georgia Strait Alliance.

Basically, you don’t need bleach. A sprinkle of baking soda in the washing machine or a day in the sunshine will get your whites, white. Plus, chlorine bleach is highly caustic and poisons many children each year, and contributes to poor indoor air quality because it’s a pollutant.